16.647 visualizing time

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       [1] From: "Rabkin, Eric" <esrabkin@umich.edu> (65)
             Subject: RE: 16.643 Visualizing dynamic experience of time?

       [2] From: Mickie Husted <mickiesstory@yahoo.com> (9)
             Subject: Re: Visualizing dynamic experience of time? (fwd)

       [3] From: Stephen Ramsay <sramsay@uga.edu> (13)
             Subject: Re: 16.643 Visualizing dynamic experience of time?

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             Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:49:01 +0100
             From: "Rabkin, Eric" <esrabkin@umich.edu>
             Subject: RE: 16.643 Visualizing dynamic experience of time?

    One way to create such an animation is by using a simple spotlight mask
    in Flash. To see an example and a tutorial, visit
    http://virtual-fx.net/vfx/tutorial/tutorial11_92_20020103.php or
    http://virtual-fx.net/vfx/tutorial/tutorial11_98_20020103.php. BTW, in
    _Slaughterhouse-Five_, Vonnegut's non-human Tralfamadoreans see all time
    at once like a mountain range and just look along it; their viewpoint is
    contrasted with that of the human protagonist, Billy Pilgrim.
    Vonnegut's handling of the difficulties humans have overcoming their
    time-bound senses may be suggestive in this instance.

    Good luck!

    Eric

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               Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 07:00:47 +0100
               From: Jan Christoph Meister <jan-c-meister@uni-hamburg.de>
               Subject: Visualizing dynamic experience of time

    22:47
    28.04.2003

    Dear Colleagues,

    I wonder wether anybody has ideas, information, examples, links etc.
    with regard to the following:

    I want to visualize the dynamic experience of time (to be more specific,
    the experience of time as mediated by narratives. But that's not really
    important here.)

    By dynamic I mean that if a perceiving subject in a world W moves along
    a time line from t1 to tn, he/she will at any given 'point in time' (=
    position on the absolute time line) have different information available
    as to what time phenomena lie/ occur in his/her subjective (and hence
    relative) future, past and present. So the subject's model of how events
    and phenomena are temporally located in W and how time on a whole is
    structured in W will continuously change.

    An added difficulty is that the perceiving subject will only be able to
    accumulate information about the time indexes of phenomena in a step by
    step fashion (meaning that a certain amount of time data will be
    available at t1, and that the additional time data available at t2 might
    then totally change the entire picture.) Moreover, some of the
    information he/she gets will be absolute ("x occurs at 14.00 GMT on
    28.04.03"); other information will be relative ("X occurs after Y; Y
    will occur after Z").

    I discussed this already with Willard who suggested some sort of
    animated visualization. I'd be most grateful for any futher ideas!

    Chris

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             Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:50:12 +0100
             From: Mickie Husted <mickiesstory@yahoo.com>
             Subject: Re: Visualizing dynamic experience of time? (fwd)

    Dear Jan-

    The University of South Carolina in Columbia has a
    listserv similar to our philosophical, but their list
    is for for quantum studies. Many physicists, chemists,
    and other scientists subscribe to this list.

    This question about time is very interesting and I
    think they might like playing around with it. Would it
    be okay if I forwarded it to them?

    Mickie

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             Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:51:11 +0100
             From: Stephen Ramsay <sramsay@uga.edu>
             Subject: Re: 16.643 Visualizing dynamic experience of time?

    You are in luck. Check out Johanna Drucker and Beth Nowviskie's
    *Temporal Modelling* project -- still in progress, but more or less
    precisely what you are imagining:

    http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/time/time.html

    Steve

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