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Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.83: precedents? (63)
[2] From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.83: precedents? (25)
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Date: 2024-07-31 16:20:52+00:00
From: scholar-at-large@bell.net <scholar-at-large@bell.net>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.83: precedents?
Willard
Your call for suggestions leads me to point towards Norman Brosterman, Inventing
Kindergarten.
“In a section of the book devoted to the origin of abstract art and modern
architecture, Brosterman shows how this vast educational program may have
influenced the course of art history.”
It’s a beautifully illustrated book — makes it easy to imagine being in
kindergarten.
It is perhaps less about precedents and more about background to the background.
Of interest, I hope,
François Lachance
> On Jul 31, 2024, at 4:17 AM, Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> wrote:
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> Date: 2024-07-31 08:12:44+00:00
> From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk>
> Subject: precedents
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> Historian of technology Michael Mahoney argued that precedents, so often
> identified for computing in deterministic time-lines, are
> retrospectively invented as much as, or more than, found. No real
> problem here--so long as we know what we're doing when we cherry-pick
> from history to identify roots of computing as we know it. I am
> wondering about whether anyone has done such digging recently for useful
> precursors to the cognitive transformations brought about by the
> artists, musicians, photographers, film-makers and writers in Europe,
> Russia and the Americas following the end of World War I. Montage (about
> which Sergei Eisenstein famously wrote a great deal) is an example.
> Roger Shattuck, in The Banquet Years: The Origins of the Avant-Garde in
> France 1885-World War I (1961), brilliantly goes into the background;
> see esp. his penultimate chapher, "The Art of Stillness".
>
> Suggestions and discussion most welcome!
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> All best,
> WM
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> Willard McCarty,
> Professor emeritus, King's College London;
> Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist
> www.mccarty.org.uk
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Date: 2024-07-31 11:29:57+00:00
From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.83: precedents?
interesting question, as always, Willard.
the main frame is that of the historical interpretation / the
interpretation of history, in global terms.
applied here to a specific context, that of computing development.
the question if: would we have been able to identify factor A and G as
relevant factors for the development of "x" if we were there when things
were happening?
after years we build the best possible reconstruction of the events, but
this is not necessarily the most correct one.
Maurizio
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for AI to truly be our assistant, it needs to be trustworthy
for it to be trustworthy, it must be under our control
it can’t be working behind the scenes for some tech monopoly
bruce schneier
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Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
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