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    [1]    From: Nick Thieberger <thien@unimelb.edu.au>
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.333: advice on lengthy URLs (51)

    [2]    From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
           Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.333: advice on lengthy URLs (31)


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        Date: 2025-01-22 06:07:03+00:00
        From: Nick Thieberger <thien@unimelb.edu.au>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.333: advice on lengthy URLs

Hi Willard,

I agree that the longevity of the service is problem. I use
rebrand.ly <https://www.rebrandly.com/> which also allows me to change the target
url. This can be useful if you have published the shortened form but need to
change the target. It also allows you to use your own domain in the short link.

All the best,

Nick
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Sent: Wednesday, 22 January 2025 4:56 PM
To: Nick Thieberger <thien@unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: [Humanist] 38.333: advice on lengthy URLs


              Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 38, No. 333.
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        Date: 2025-01-22 05:48:21+00:00
        From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk>
        Subject: lengthy URLs?

This is to seek best advice on how to handle long URLs in e-mail
notes, such as Humanist sent out in the previous message. Should they
be 'broken' in order to accommodate the margin(s) set by subsequent
programs or,  as I just chose, left unbroken? Would it always be
best to enclose URLs in angle-brackets
or left without them?

It's extra trouble, but my own preference would be to use an online
service (such as tinyurl.com) to shorten very long URLs. But perhaps
this is to depend too much on the longevity of such services?

Some wisdom from better informed experience than mine would be welcome.

Yours,
WM
--
Willard McCarty,
Professor emeritus, King's College London;
Editor, Humanist
http://www.mccarty.org.uk


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        Date: 2025-01-22 07:32:35+00:00
        From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.333: advice on lengthy URLs

hi Willard,

for me long full URLs without a doubt.
the shortened URLs inherently break the archival nature of the the
mailing list archive.
we can easily think that the list archive remain in the time much more
than the shortening services.
we can read today the very first message of humanist in 1987, that is 38
years ago.

no shortening service can be assumed to live so long. so we would end at
a certain time with not working/unusable and incomprehensible URLs,
while a real URL even if not working remains readable: you can see at
least where it pointed, possibly the name of a file which could be
downloaded. eventually you can search for a copy in Internet Archive.

so, for me, long life the long URLs because they are informationally
richer and archivally more resilient

Maurizio


é imperioso mantermos a esperança mesmo quando
a dureza ou aspereza da realidade sugira o contrário
paulo freire

---------------
Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli


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