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        Date: 2024-09-20 14:34:18+00:00
        From: Öyvind Eide <oeide@uni-koeln.de>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 38.143: a paradox?

Dear Willard,

I am not sure this is an answer or even a comment to your questions, but as
modelling can be seen as media transformations, and adaptations and translations
can be seen the same way, maybe this parallel could bring something:

* Reflecting on a model and what it is modelling is like meditating over the
relationship between a novel and its film adaptation

* Reflecting on a model and what it is modelling is like meditating over the
relationship between Hávamál and its Finnish translation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hávamál
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A1vam%C3%A1l>

This is only a relevant comparison if both the novel and the film, and both the
poem and its translation, are well known and understood.

All the best,

Øyvind

> Am 18.09.2024 um 06:12 schrieb Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org>:
>
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>              Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 38, No. 143.
>        Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne
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>        Date: 2024-09-18 05:08:06+00:00
>        From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk>
>        Subject: side by side
>
> Here's a question I am pondering and would like some help with.
>
> Much is written about modelling, a bit of it by me. But I am bothered by
> the built-in assumption that the role of the machine in this instance is
> to imitate the modelled object or process as closely as possible or
> practical. If, however, we juxtapose the computational machine as we
> know it to a human process or practice, neither to model the latter by
> the former nor to do a point-by-point comparison but to hold the two in
> mind in order to see what happens, what happens then? Where might one
> find a way to think about this situation?
>
> Comments welcome.
>
> Yours,
> WM
>
>
> --
> Willard McCarty,
> Professor emeritus, King's College London;
> Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews;  Humanist
> www.mccarty.org.uk


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