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Date: 2024-02-26 13:03:00+00:00
From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.463: a new heaven and a new earth
hi Willard,
you remind me of what Dante writes in Inferno about Cato: "o dignitosa
coscïenza e netta!"
i have no doubt that you don't consciously omit sending out a message
without informing the author of your reason for doing so. and i myself
wouldn't call this one an error because it is nothing face to your
thinking and dialoguing presence that always tries to pull us out of our
irreflexive routine (and sometimes you succeed!)
moreover this exchange about messages underlines what a mailing list
should be: a place where people talk to each other also about big
meta-questions (of which "a new heaven and a new earth?" is probably the
epitome); while the tendency is to make of the mailing lists mere places
of announcement of events.
Maurizio
Il 26/02/24 09:14, Humanist ha scritto:
> Date: 2024-02-26 07:46:48+00:00
> From: Willard McCarty<willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk>
> Subject: Fwd: [Humanist] 37.450: a new heaven and a new earth?
>
> Maurizio Lana has alerted me to the fact that his message to Humanist
> (infra) never appeared. I have no explanation for this error. But it does
> give me a chance to emphasise once again that (imagine a stack of
> sacred books) I never consciously omit sending out a message without
> informing the author of my reason for doing so. This happens very
> rarely, fewer than half a dozen times, perhaps only 3 or four since
> 1987. So, if you do not see your contribution sent out within 2 days or
> so, kindly send it again with a note.
> Yours,
> WM
>
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.450: a new heaven and a new earth?
> Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 01:17:20 +0100
> From: maurizio lana<maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
> Organisation: Università del Piemonte Orientale
> To:willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk
>
>
> Il 17/02/24 09:09, Humanist ha scritto:
>> Date: 2024-02-15 09:55:24+00:00
>> From: Willard McCarty<willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk>
>> Subject: a new heaven and a new earth?
>>
>> ...
>>
>> In a forthcoming article in the next issue of Interdisciplinary Science
>> Reviews, Cambridge philosopher Nicholas Jardine asks, “How far does our
>> self-fulfilment through acquisition of pure knowledge license our
>> setting aside or downplaying of personal, civil and educational
>> responsibilities?” Those of us who retreat from the dangerous playground
>> of the bad boys and girls (as I have always tried to do) can't really do so
in
>> good conscience, it seems.
> hi Willard,
> i often ask myself similar questions.
>
> on the side of the ordinary, i would like to cite an article published
> in Logic(s) Magazine (Abdurahman, J. Khadijah. «Holding to Account:
> Safiya Umoja Noble and Meredith Whittaker on Duties of Care and
> Resistance to Big Tech». Logic(s) Magazine, 25 dicembre 2021.
> https://logicmag.io/beacons/holding-to-account-safiya-umoja-noble-and-
meredith-whittaker/):
>
> "Part of the challenge here is that researchers have been socialized in
> academia to be apolitical or to think of themselves as scientists and
> not as people who have values imbued into the work that they’re doing."
>
> on the side of exceptional, here in Italy we had the oath of allegiance
> to fascism that was demanded of university professors by the fascist
> regime. 12 out os 1251 refused the oath and for that reason were
> expulsed from the University: they were 1% of the total.
>
> i mean that an education is needed so that the persons be capable to
> stand. not necessarily to stand _against_ but first of all to stand.
> an education to recognize the value of staying standing beyond any
> practical advantage or disadvantage.
> and that we probably dream that "self-fulfilment through acquisition of
> pure knowledge" is also a civil and political education, but it is not
> so simple.
>
> (i recall the document now disappeared that our Russian DH colleagues
> had put in GDrive against the war.
> i didn't save it, how unaware i was.
> does someone have a copy?)
>
> Maurizio
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quando il raggio della conoscenza si allunga,
la circonferenza dell'ignoto si espande
victor mckusick
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Maurizio Lana
Università del Piemonte Orientale
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli
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