Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 37, No. 393. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2024-01-15 13:18:24+00:00 From: Bill Pascoe <bill.pascoe@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.391: removing Safelinks' links & linear reading/writing Hi, In answer to the question, "Can any of us point to an actual DH repository or novel/monograph-qua-repository that actually influences us to be memorable at the level of one of our favorite novels?" - Icelandic Saga Map I was reading a saga when I came across this. This sticks with me as much as the saga, because it transformed my experience of the saga. This was a starting point for much of my work afterwards. - Trove https://trove.nla.gov.au/ The vast amount of newspapers throughout Australia's history can make for great reading. This completely changed my understanding of our history, and my sense of what it means to be here now on this land. The availability of these articles has exposed truths that have been forgotten and covered up for a hundred years. The juxtaposition of some articles in the same paper is incredible, and also with the advertisements - such as ads for guns near reports of 'outrages' on the frontier, or a front page reporting foreboding articles about Mussolini, and various bits of trouble throughout the world, from Russia to Fiji, knowing it's all about to become WWII. I've spent longer in Trove than any novel. Not to mention the maps in Trove that I've spent months working with. - Historical and Indigenous Maps Of Brisbane https://mappingbrisbanehistory.com.au/brisbane-history-map/ I grew up thinking everything around me was an endless, soulless urban sprawl devoid of meaning. But it turns out there were so many important sites near where I lived and grew up. A bora ring down the road from where I lived. Not 50 metres from my student house is a traffic island that was a healing spring used by warriors at tournaments fought in the gully. I could go on and on. It changed my life and changed the way I look at everything. - FAMSI archive of Mesoamerican codexes https://trove.nla.gov.au/ Here is an artform that is not even possible with our writing and pictorial systems. Here are the very few incredibly beautiful remaining books from once vast libraries of such vividly rendered text. I spent more time trying to learn to read these than with any book. Not for work - I wish it was - but because I wanted to, as someone might want to read a book. - Colonial Frontier Massacres https://c21ch.newcastle.edu.au/colonialmassacres/ I'm biased because I worked on this, but this has made the consistent massacre of more than 10,000 people over 140 years common knowledge when before they were little known. We get many comments from the public indicating it has been as memorable for them as anything else they might have read. The reading process of these is very different to a longform web page or analogue book. In reading and creating these, I also embrance the non-linear, self directed form. I do wish I could find enough idle time to read a book though. Bill Pascoe #### From: Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> Sent: Monday, 15 January 2024 5:18 PM To: Bill Pascoe <bill.pascoe@unimelb.edu.au> Subject: [Humanist] 37.391: removing Safelinks' links & linear reading/writing Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 37, No. 391. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne http://www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org [1] From: Tanner Durant <kekpenyo@syr.edu> Subject: Re : [Humanist] 37.390: removing Safelinks' links (212) [2] From: Dr. Herbert Wender <drwender@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.390: removing Safelinks' links (10) --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2024-01-14 15:48:12+00:00 From: Tanner Durant <kekpenyo@syr.edu> Subject: Re : [Humanist] 37.390: removing Safelinks' links Responding to this part of Mr. McCarty's write-up: "The reason is simply this: that Humanist is meant to be READ. Remember reading? Not nervously, twitchingly leaping from a spot in a character-string to some other place without taking in and inwardly digesting what someone has written in continuous prose meant to be enjoyed as such. I find it remarkable--and here remark on--that so many seem to have lost (I hope temporarily) essential skills of communication in written language." I find these thoughts interesting for several reasons. First, traditionally whenever I try to read a book on Kindle, I get so distracted by the availability of the internet that it takes a lot of focus for me to stay within the book itself. I get distracted by either: (1) checking social media, (2) going to social media and the broader Internet to either post about or read about what others have written about cool excerpts from what I'm reading, or (3) savoring a cool thought or idea from a book and putting it down while I digest it, consuming music or other media. I have more self-control in my 30s now than I did in my 20s, to be able to read a book efficiently on Kindle, although my reading style on Kindle now basically involves serious speed reading, taking advantage of some of the UX/UI attributes of the efficiencies of time and scale of clicking a button or swiping right to turn a page, vs actually turning an actual page. Technology in this way has definitely basically changed the way I read compared to the 1990s or 2000s. Second, in a 2006 peer-reviewed article that has influenced me a lot, "Sorting Things In: Feminist Knowledge Repesentation and Changing Modes of Scholarly Production" by Brown, Clements, and Grundy of Canada, the writers actually embrace the internet for its non-linear capacities of reading, arguing that these non-linear reading structures and habits actually better reflect the kind of liberatory writing and reading they feel like the 21st century deserves. They received an academic grant to write a book (monograph) and decided to produce a prototype DH website/ database instead. They write of “the advantages of moveable text that permitted dynamic ordering of materials according to reader's priorities; the dialogism or multi-voicedness that seemed particularly suited to collaboration; the ability to combine the processing power of electronic markup with nuanced prose; the ability to produced a dispersed, non-linear text rather than a narrative or linear one; the opportunity to map the intellectual principles explicitly in the conceptual markup which organizes the text. This last point — that SGML markup would provide a way of making our intellectual principles and priorities clear — was from the outset the most intellectually stimulating, and also both practically and intellectually the most daunting.“ For the last 4 years or so, during masters level graduate school for me, this excerpt and the rest of the article have been the foundation for me of my digital humanities journey, where I privileged the advent of the internet, AI, and everything like it as a good thing and sought out to, as best as possible, become an expert on futuristic knowledge production and langage representation. I like how Mr. McCarty’s assumptions challenge the presumed rightness of leaving traditional linear textuality behind. It’s something worth considering for everyone in DH. Ten-fifteen years or so into the advent of DH hype (DH became a trending topic at the MLA conference around 2009-2011, I believe), is the outcome living up to the hype? Can any of us point to an actual DH repository or novel/monograph-qua-repository that actually influences us to be memorable at the level of one of our favorite novels? I’m a big fan of Julio Cortázar’s novel Hopscotch/ Rayuela which tries to create the hyperlink effect within a novel format. I like one of my professional colleagues’ attempts to create a hyperlink-heavy DH version of a Southern novelist’s writings. The LGBTQ encyclopedia influenced me a lot in the 2000s, as does I suppose Wikipedia too. Traditional linear writing and reading have merit too. This 2017 New Yorker article comments on the demise of the longreads/longform essay format which captured so many minds’ attention on Buzzfeed and elsewhere during the Obama era. https://www.newyorker.com/culture/jia-tolentino/the-personal-essay-boom-is-over If we argue that TikTok, perhaps, has replaced the level of prominence that Buzzfeed used to enjoy, has the switch from longform to short form knowledge presentation diminished the quality of intellectual engagement? Depends who you ask. _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php