Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 37, No. 374. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2024-01-07 10:33:58+00:00 From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.365: flip/flop into 2024 hi Bill, this morning i was reading an italian newspaper article which can contribute to the discussion (ilSole24Ore, Mauro Ceruti, "Fearful complexity and adventurous unknown". It is a simplification that does not work to compartmentalize knowledge. We need to conceive the unheard and the possible hidden behind things - here in edited Deepl translation). > "It's complex!" Here is an expression that, like a mirror, reflects > the unease felt by the reporter narrating the war in Ukraine or the > Middle East, the citizen questioning democracy or the digital > revolution, the business executive pondering strategy in a globalized > and volatile market, the project leader called upon to coordinate a > work team. > This expression translates a kind of powerlessness to account for what > one is about, the phenomenon of which one is an actor or observer, and > a disorientation of spirit or thought. Why? The fundamental reason > leads us back to the deepest layer of the crisis we experience today: > a crisis of thought. The fact is that we have learned to > compartmentalize knowledge, to study objects in isolation from their > contexts, to reduce a multidimensional reality to a single dimension, > to crystallize "false dichotomies" such as natural and human, mind and > environment, emotions and rationality, culture and technology, > creativity and logical rigor, knowledge and skills, virtual and real, > and so on. > ... > By rejecting the idea of a nature-mechanism and a society-mechanism, > complex thinking does not reject clarity, order, determinism at all: > it knows, however, that these are insufficient, that discovery, > knowledge, and action cannot be planned; it prepares us for the > unexpected, the uncertain, and to devise a strategy as soon as they > arise. For Dominici [the author of the reviewed book Oltre i cigni > neri. L’urgenza di aprirsi all’indeterminato, Franco Angeli, 2023], > moreover, and as a consequence, the increase in social complexity > calls for a profound revision of the conception of democracy, > technology, education, and government practices. > ... relevant is his call to be vigilant about what he calls "the > complexity of complexity." That is, the contradiction between, on the > one hand, the tendency of the hyper-technological and hyper-connected > society to complexify itself (an example is the integration that takes > place between human and artificial in artificial intelligence...) and, > on the other hand, the opposite tendency not to recognize this > complexity, continuing to educate to a simplified view of culture and > reality based on dichotomies, to always seek "simple solutions" to > complex problems. The development of digital technologies and Big data > perpetuates the illusory certainties of control and predictability, > and the tendency to "trivialize" and simplify the human. > To think complexity and accept uncertainty, Dominici argues how we > need to change the way we think. Making Hannah Arendt's warning his > own, he argues how "thinking", threatened by the passivization and > de-empowerment induced by technical devices and hyperspecialization, > must be defended. And he suggests how the same now-widespread emphasis > on "black swans" often betrays a surreptitious desire to reassure with > respect to the fact that, despite some unforeseen events, everything > in essence remains "under control" and predictable. the main points are, for me: > we have learned to compartmentalize knowledge, to study objects in > isolation from their contexts, to reduce a multidimensional reality to > a single dimension, to crystallize "false dichotomies" such as natural > and human, mind and environment, emotions and rationality, culture and > technology, creativity and logical rigor, knowledge and skills, > virtual and real, and so on > a simplified view of culture and reality based on dichotomies, to > always seek "simple solutions" to complex problems > the tendency to "trivialize" and simplify the human > "thinking", threatened by the de-empowerment induced by technical > devices and hyperspecialization, must be defended best Maurizio Il 03/01/24 09:36, Bill Pascoe <bill.pascoe@unimelb.edu.au> ha scritto: > Here's just a few idle background thoughts when thinking about when and where > binary matters. > > I notice that a great many arguments in the world could be resolved if the > protagonists recognised that the issue was a matter of degree, rather an a > binary is/isn't. So many adult arguments boil down to the simple formula of > children shouting 'IS SO!' and 'IS NOT!' at each other. One of the common > reasons for such confrontations is that they are using different definitions of > terms. But another common way to resolve such arguments is to change the > question from being "Is it or isn't it?" to "How much is it? More or less?" and > given that, the question follows, "At what amount should we do something about > it? What action should we take?" As well as every day kitchen sink arguments, > many political arguments are like this. > > Then there is a big difference between the world around us being fuzzy, and a > matter of degree, and the way we interpret it in order to make decisions on our > course of action. Often an action is necessarily binary. Do I jump or not? (As > well as how high.) To make a decision much of our thought process is devoted > into taking in a lot of information, deciding if one thing or another (risky, or > not), based on information that tells us either way, so we interpret into binary > or exclusive categories, and binary and quantised mutually exclusive categorical > decisions. This fish looks like that fish a bit, but I think it's the poisonous > one someone told me about, because they said it had a blue tail, and this one is > kind of purple, but I'm going to put this in the 'poison fish' category, and > choose action 'not eat'. > > This point about a matter of degree is one of the most fundamental to the > modernity (or whatever you want to call it), in particular, science. The point > of science is to go - hang on, it's not just is or isn't, it's a matter of > degree, and that means we can measure it, and with that measure we can > demonstrate whether this is more than that, and at what level of degree it > matters - and not only that, but what degree of change in this correlates with > what degree of change in that, which means we can predict this given that, and > what degree of action we should take on this to change that. > > In the practical working life of a DH practitioner, I almost always find myself > having to cajole fuzzy information into mutually exclusive categories or > binaries, with a special column in the database for commentary notes so that all > these forced choices can be qualified with some remarks, like 'This is only a > best estimate of the date, the narrative actually says 'Winter, 1846' etc etc - > I explain to non DH Humanists, "If you want the computer to put it on a time > line, you have to tell it where. If you were to draw a timeline, you'd have to > put it somewhere - where would you put it? We'll put 'circa' in this other > field." (You were asking specifically about binary, but perhaps we are really > talking about mutually exclusive categories - which might be two - or > quantisation, or precision, more generally etc) Needless to say, there are a lot > of problems this forcing could cause, especially if there is an error. Failing > to recognise realities that get erased; failing to recognise things that can > only be put in commentary, and don't fit the data structure; valorising > countable and repeatable phenomena at the expensive of the great many important > and unique phenomena and truths in the world; not recognising things go in more > than one category; etc. But there are workarounds and information designs to try > to handle most of these things. > > I seem to remember Hegel had some thoughts that might be relevant. It was > something about how, typically, in the world, phenomena increase in quantity to > a threshold to a point where they change in quantity. Perhaps he was arguing > this to the point of saying that what a change in quality actually is, is change > in quantity. Some examples might be - increasing quantity of temperature in > water reaches a threshold where it changes quality to a gas. Or perhaps > increasing frequency of red light waves, they eventually become yellow - and so > on until their quality as 'colour' itself changes to 'invisible'. This probably > applies to social and subjective phenomena too. At the moment in looking at the > history of violence, I'm grappling with questions like "How many murders does it > take for a set of isolated policing and justice incidents, to be called a > insurrection/revolution/war?" (there are of course other factors to consider, > but this is one of them). Then at the bottom of this is the age old 'heap' > problem from the Greeks - we can call a grain of sand a grain of sand, and a > heap of sand a heap, but as you keep adding grains, at what point does it become > a heap? Important of course to distinguish real 'things' from subjective or > social convention things - the sand doesn't care if it's a heap or a grain. > > So too, to answer the question, 'When in human experience does binary matter?' - > in perception, for decision making. Perhaps that is stating the obvious, and > just raises the original question again - which perceptions, which decisions? > When and where does it matter? Maybe we should ask at what degree does binary > start to matter? What degree of noise and confusion causes us to apply binary? > What degree of complexity collapses our perception of binary into gradients? At > what point do we start to need it? At what degree does it become a problem? How > much binary is too much? > > Bill [...] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ s'il n'y a même plus l'humour pour nous alléger comment lutter prohom, comment lutter ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Maurizio Lana Università del Piemonte Orientale Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php