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[1] From: Alan Liu <ayliu@english.ucsb.edu>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.367: name of the first ALLC/ACH conference (153)
[2] From: Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>
Subject: The Heritage of Humanities Computing / [ DH ] (39)
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Date: 2024-01-04 18:12:47+00:00
From: Alan Liu <ayliu@english.ucsb.edu>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.367: name of the first ALLC/ACH conference
Thanks to everyone for the information about the 1989 ALLC-ACH conference.
Willard also sent me some announcement posts from Humanist about that
conference as well as other materials; and Geoffrey Rockwell sent material
as well. Interestingly, it looks like there is no bibliographically clean
answer to the question of when the first "ALLC-ACH" conference occurred. If
I understand correctly from early materials, the 1989 conference was the
first de facto ALLC-ACH conference, but literally that conference was named
in ways that combined the different genealogical trees of the ALLC and ILLC
before "ACH" began to enter the conference's actual name.
For example, here are two announcement headings I've now seen for the
conference:
The Dynamic Text (16th International ALLC Conference and 9th ICCH
> Conference)
And:
Association for Literary and Linguistic Computing
Association for Computers and the Humanities
16th International ALLC Conference -- 9th ICCH Conference
Also, just to echo the thought of others: the early narrative of the
conference (and of the organizations involved) really should be written,
documented, and deposited in a consolidated way before it all gets lost. (I
myself didn't enter the DH field until about 1993 or so after that 1989
conference.) At a minimum, someone with the knowledge should draw the
family tree of the ALLC, ICCH, and ACH (and subsequent associations) in
those early years.
--Best, Alan
On Thu, Jan 4, 2024 at 1:01 AM Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> wrote:
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> Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 37, No. 367.
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> [1] From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.363: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference (40)
>
> [2] From: Max Kemman <maxkemman@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.363: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference (19)
>
> [3] From: John Bradley <john.bradley@kcl.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.363: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference (12)
>
>
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> Date: 2024-01-03 17:48:26+00:00
> From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.363: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference
>
> Il 03/01/24 09:32, Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de> ha
> scritto:
> >
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> > Date: 2024-01-02 09:50:33+00:00
> > From: Manfred Thaller<manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>
> > Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.361: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > One small note: I'm probably not the only one, who has a collection of
> > older abstract collections and similar unpublished materials. (The
> > conference proceedings most of the time give a very different picture
> > than the abstracts of the conferences.) Has anybody ever thought to set
> > up an archive of such material relevant for the history of this sort of
> > interdisciplinary study? Personally I think setting it up under the
> > various political structures of the disciplines, as DH, would not really
> > be safe for the longterm, but one of the larger libraries, might
> > contemplate setting up such a repository?
>
> wonderful suggestion, these days that the whole collection of the Whole
> Earth Catalog editions is surfacing online: the collection is hosted by
> the Internet Archive, while the website wholeearth.info serves as a
> guide to the various sections of the catalog
> :-)
> what about the Internet Archive as the site for this repository of grey
> literature?
>
> Maurizio
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> che faresti se vivessi così?
> mau mau, con chi fugge
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Maurizio Lana
> Università del Piemonte Orientale
> Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici
> Piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli
>
>
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> Date: 2024-01-03 10:01:19+00:00
> From: Max Kemman <maxkemman@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.363: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference
>
> Dear Manfred,
>
> I'm probably not the only one who has a collection of
> older abstract collections and similar unpublished materials. (The
> conference proceedings most of the time give a very different picture
> than the abstracts of the conferences.) Has anybody ever thought to set
> up an archive of such material relevant for the history of this sort of
> interdisciplinary study? Personally I think setting it up under the
> various political structures of the disciplines, as DH, would not really
> be safe for the longterm, but one of the larger libraries, might
> contemplate setting up such a repository?
>
> Carnegie Mellon Unversity Library has a project titled The Index of Digital
> Humanities Conferences, which strives to achieve this. It is far from
> complete,
> but appears to be still active, see
> https://dh-abstracts.library.virginia.edu/
>
> Best regards,
> Max Kemman
>
>
>
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> Date: 2024-01-03 09:22:42+00:00
> From: John Bradley <john.bradley@kcl.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.363: name of the first ALLC/ACH
> conference
>
> Dear friends: My typing is terrible, and has got worse as I get older...
>
> Regarding the name of the Toronto conference: the word was
> "International", not
> "Internation" (of course).
>
> My apologies... John B
>
> John Bradley
> Honorary Senior Research Fellow
> King's Digital Lab and Department of Digital Humanities
> King's College London
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Date: 2024-01-04 16:57:26+00:00
From: Manfred Thaller <manfred.thaller@uni-koeln.de>
Subject: The Heritage of Humanities Computing / [ DH ]
Dear Max, Dear Maurizio,
thanks very much for my rather spontaneous remark, that some kind of
repository for the written traces of the past of HC / DH would be useful.
https://dh-abstracts.library.virginia.edu/ , Max, is indeed quite encouraging.
It misses a few things: [1] CHART (https://chart.cch.kcl.ac.uk/I which petered
out some ten years ago; [2] Computers in the History Classroom; [3] Vereniging
for Geschiedenis and Informatica (Netherlands); [4] Geschichte und Informatik
(Switzerland) ...
How the missed [1] I do not know; [2] is the case of an association cum
conference, which has been active in the early internet days, never really got
to a web site before it ceased to be active, however; [3] and [4] would be
remedied, if a stronger European presence in the project could be envisaged.
Even strengthening the project considerably, I see two problems however:
(a) For the period 1980 - 2000 the various newsletters are at least as important
as the conferences.
(b) Much of the material pre-2000 never made it into the digital form.
The later problem, Maurizio, is the reason why I am somewhat doubtful whether
the Internet Archive would really help.
So I am still afraid, that the dream of an institution which provides a unified
repository for "the whole" of interdisciplinary work between the Humanities
{Literary / Linguistic, History, Archaeology ...} in ALL media {Books, journals,
newsletters, books of abstracts, programs of summer schools, e-publications, ...
}, possibly digitizing what's pre-digital, where one could deposit relevant
material without having to worry, that a new director simply gets rid of it ten
years later, remains exactly that, a dream.
If somebody looks for an additional work package for the next infrastructure
application ... and your application is the very first one, where the long term
infrastructure can truly [ i.e., outside of application lyrics ] be expected to
continue, once that startup funding runs out ...
Best regards,
Manfred
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