Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 37, No. 310. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org [1] From: Matt Huculak <huculak@uvic.ca> Subject: RE: [Humanist] 37.309: why e-mail, why not social media (125) [2] From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> Subject: "social media is broken" (47) --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2023-11-15 18:29:54+00:00 From: Matt Huculak <huculak@uvic.ca> Subject: RE: [Humanist] 37.309: why e-mail, why not social media In defense of email, it is worth noting that our colleague Matthew Kirschenbaum, whom I've followed for some time, has had to lock his Twitter account because of serious, negative exchanges that have occurred this past week. He is no longer participating in "academic twitter." I am reminded of Dr. Lynne Siemens' article, "It's a team if you use 'reply all'" (2009, DOI:10.1093/llc/fqp009), which argues email still carries with it sense of belonging, mutual responsibility and accountability--features that continue to erode on social media platforms. Three cheers for email! -----Original Message----- From: Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 9:52 PM To: Matt Huculak <huculak@uvic.ca> Subject: [Humanist] 37.309: why e-mail, why not social media Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 37, No. 309. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org [1] From: scholar-at-large@bell.net <scholar-at-large@bell.net> Subject: Social Media and the Conduct of Scholarship (43) [2] From: Ken Friedman <ken.friedman.sheji@icloud.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.305: why e-mail (36) --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2023-11-14 21:11:16+00:00 From: scholar-at-large@bell.net <scholar-at-large@bell.net> Subject: Social Media and the Conduct of Scholarship Willard, I have read the praise of email for intellectual exchange and am dismayed by the scorn inflicted on social media. I think some of the affordances are overlooked. Concision helps concentrate the mind (in social media, creative threads get around the limitations of individual posts). Speed: social media norms for quick response (hours and not days) lend a sometimes giddy air to its proceedings… an affect not unbidden by some. Social media is good for many tasks: asking about which books, films or music to consult; boosting the work of colleagues (with reposts and likes); sharing in jokes and memes. I bow to wiser folks to do justice to the topic of humour and scholarship. To illustrate my point: two posts from a longer thread (well worth reading in full). Matthew Kirschenbaum sums up a fruitful exchange from December 2021: https://twitter.com/mkirschenbaum/status/1475866810943688705 [quote] I’m very grateful to everyone who engaged with this yesterday. I’m especially grateful that (by others’ accounts as well), it was a balanced, respectful exchange— no small thing on this website! Here are some of the verbs that were offered as alternatives to discover or find: [/quote] https://twitter.com/mkirschenbaum/status/1475866872881025040 [quote] Located, identified, uncovered, unearthed, recovered, elevated, evaluated, noticed, learned, surfaced, retrieved, worked with, drew from, activated, was enabled, leveraged, analyzed, revealed, saw, examined, used, encountered, witnessed. [/quote] I submit that such a suggestive list could be collectively-produced by email, after all, inventio is not foreign to either social media or email. But to pull it off despite constraints and culture is indeed “no small thing”. I am not disparaging the evocative format of the exchange of email. I am simply pointing to some interesting activity in another part of the agora. F François Lachance, Ph.d. Life cannot be all told. It is lived in the telling. --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2023-11-14 07:13:37+00:00 From: Ken Friedman <ken.friedman.sheji@icloud.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.305: why e-mail Dear Willard, Interesting thread. Maurizio makes a particularly good point. I often find myself editing and rewriting in email. If the flow of life interrupts, I can put the email to the side and return to work further. One a list where I found myself posting long, serious notes, I sometimes took two or three days to write and polish a comment. Email encourages — or at least permits — careful correspondence. Social media discourage this. Yours, Ken > On 14 Nov 2023, at 07:51, Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> wrote: > --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 2023-11-13 23:43:52+00:00 > From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it> > Subject: Re: [Humanist] 37.302: why e-mail? > and me personally I find myself writing and rewriting phrases, > choosing a word, displacing/relocating a block of words, etc. which is > the contrary of "rapid bursts of short utterances” Ken Friedman, Ph.D., D.Sc. (hc), FDRS | Editor-in-Chief | 设计 She Ji. The Journal of Design, Economics, and Innovation | Published by Tongji University in Cooperation with Elsevier | URL: http://www.journals.elsevier.com/she-ji-the- journal-of-design-economics-and-innovation/ Chair Professor of Design Innovation Studies | College of Design and Innovation | Tongji University | Shanghai, China | Email | ken.friedman.sheji@icloud.com | Academia https://tongji.academia.edu/KenFriedman | D&I http://tjdi.tongji.edu.cn --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2023-11-15 06:29:29+00:00 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> Subject: "social media is broken" Some months ago I came across that quoted sentence, "social media is broken", on a poster fixed to a decrepit telephone box. I had just walked out of a local, mostly Victorian, badly neglected churchyard near my house. That sentence was a caption to a photo of a bewildered man's face. We can be certain that the poor fellow was not reacting to a 21st Century Emily Dickenson's or Kenneth Rexroth's laconic poem. We've heard enough stories about Twitter storms driving their victims to distraction. While it's true that brevity and speed of exchange can be used for many good purposes, indeed are used thus, the misuses were not my point. Rather it was that e-mail serves a particular function very well. I like to think that thanks to its members, Humanist demonstrates that abundantly. What distresses me about social media are its anti-social uses: discouragement of considered, reasoned argument or description, and the tendency of rapid exchange to establish rumour as truth. Since there's no room in radically brief verbal exchange to persuade or argue, statements tend not to be challenged. Indeed, inflammatory tweets quickly proliferate. If my experience is a guide, it would seem that tweets and the like are read by many who haven't noticed or had time to challenge the initial allegation. Insults follow in rapid succession. No use arguing back, or pointing to evidence or even making the attempt. Flame-wars, as they used to be called, were once commonplace on e-mail lists, such as this one. I served as Humanist's fireman for a time. This worked well due to the opportunity to discuss some problem or other at a relatively leisurely pace, to explain that holding back further comments was not 'censorship' but editorial good sense. Then social media provided a route for the inflammatory to find its tinder--and whoosh! In our relatively little world I think we have a role (one model among several) to show what casual, low-key but serious intellectual discourse can do. More than to announce events and our latest publications, as valuable as this may be. I think often these days of Kobayashi Issa's haiku: "Slowly, slowly, O snail / Climb Mt Fuji!" Ironical--a proto-tweet!--, but then haiku were written out, presumably on rice paper with a brush dipped in hand-ground ink in contemplative surroundings, or so I'd like to think. Comments? Yours, WM -- Willard McCarty, Professor emeritus, King's College London; Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist www.mccarty.org.uk _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php