Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 36, No. 506. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2023-03-31 15:21:40+00:00 From: James Rovira <jamesrovira@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 36.504: numbers for words Many, many thanks to Michael's and Maroussia's informative responses to my questions about representing polysemy computationally. It sounds like, in all instances, these different models can at best identify different meanings of the same word in different texts, or even within the same text in different sentences, but I don't see how it's possible to register different meanings of the same individual word in the same sentence, or in other words, different meanings of the word in play at the same time (would this be what Michael meant by Dante's sense?). My references to Origen, Augustine, Aquinas, and Dante could be a bit misleading because they're all working with a specific and very limited hermeneutic tradition, but exploiting different meanings of the same word in a single use is a common practice in poetry, fiction, and other literary works, while of course that practice is undesirable in scientific literature. I've always suspected these limitations were in play and wondered what it would take to, say, use the OED (Miriam Webster was just close at hand :)) as a set of numbered keys attached to each word identifying a range of possible meanings (so "father" might have a 1a 1b 1c 1d 2a 2b 2c 2d etc. attached to it) and then see if the programs could be trained to pick up multiple meanings of a single use from an expanded context? Ideally of course we would start with the full OED and then be able to expand our keys. I think I'm asking for a bit much as this process often involves interpretive work which is sometimes creative and often requires the exercise of judgment. We could of course code a few texts this way by hand and then see if they could train the program to identify patterns on its own, but then we would be pre-interpreting the text in a senese. It'd get really involved with poetry, as the program would need to identify end words and similarly sounding words across different lines as context, not just words appearing before and after another word. Jim R _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php