Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 36, No. 466. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2023-03-20 14:28:07+00:00 From: Dr. Hartmut Krech <kr538@uni-bremen.de> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 36.454: musings: disciplinarity Dear Willard, Thank you again for providing food for thought thru your musings and trouvailles from the literature and your rich experience. Are the 'digital humanities' (and the various synonyms you are citing) an academic discipline, you are asking. Of course, digital humanists should know what they are doing, and this self-knowledge very certainly affects the way the 'digital humanities' are represented and financially sustained within institutional contexts. Multiple answers seem to be possible to this important question. Let me try to approach it from the history of the word. Latin 'disciplina' appears as a cover term for various Greek designations of groups of educated people transmitting a certain teaching or systematized opinion in public discourse. At that time, Rome itself was learning from Greek culture, and formal education was being systematized and institutionalized in public libraries, schools, etc. The knowledge transmitted was meant to be applied by orators, lawyers, politicians, etc. Therefore, 'disciplina' in the sense of 'applied knowledge' was used interchangeably with 'ars'. The body of knowledge transmitted was called 'doctrina' (teaching) instead. With respect to the interpretation of 'disciplina' as an art, the adverb 'disciplinaliter' ('in a strict manner') has some importance. Returning to your initial question, are the 'digital humanities' an academic discipline, we have to state that in the beginning they were lacking a coherent teaching because of the novelty of their methods. As was often the case in the history of science, they consisted of various practices and research strategies within the field of the 'humanities', a difficult term in itself. Nevertheless, those practices were peculiar enough to be separated from other practices within the humanities. As such they might still be called an 'art' in the old sense. What makes 'digital humanities' an academic discipline, is the strict, systematized and teachable manner in which the digital humanities are practiced. As a discipline, the digital humanities have to address an additional task: to organize, criticize, formalize, and store the knowledge they are teaching. Best regards, Hartmut http://independent.academia.edu/HartmutKrech Latest publication: IndianerLeben. Indianische Frauen und Männer erzählen ihr Leben https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0BYRXKXCK/ Am 17.03.2023 um 07:01 schrieb Humanist: > Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 36, No. 454. > Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne > Hosted by DH-Cologne > www.dhhumanist.org > Submit to:humanist@dhhumanist.org > > > [1] From: Willard McCarty<willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> > Subject: is it a discipline? (54) > > [2] From:scholar-at-large@bell.net <scholar-at-large@bell.net> > Subject: detroit (6) > > > --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Date: 2023-03-16 09:17:43+00:00 > From: Willard McCarty<willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> > Subject: is it a discipline? > > Of the many agonisings over whether 'digital humanities' (and before > that 'humanities computing', and before that 'computing in the > humanities', and before that, 'computing and the humanities') is a > discipline, I prefer not to dwell, and recommend that no one else does > any further. However, Umberto Eco, in "Concluding remarks" to the First > Congress of the International Association for Semiotic Studies, held in > Milan in June 1974*, has wisdom on the question of 'is-it-one', which > he asked on behalf of semiotics, that would be a pity not to know and > keep somewhere for anxious moments. Thanks to an article by another > fine scholar, Teresa De Lauretis, "The Shape of the World: Report on > Structuralism and Semiotics in Italy" (1975), I found my way to Eco's > remarks and here offer some spirit-lifting snippets: > >> Semiotics is formally entitled to take possession of a theoretical >> heritage which has not been borrowed from outside for it was born from >> inside.... >> >> Is this project a utopian one? Certainly it is, if one believes that >> semiotics is an absolutely unified and ‘objective’ discipline... >> Semiotics is a human science and as such tries to give to the world the >> shape that we wish it had.... >> >> I do not know if semiotics is a science. I prefer to consider it a >> scientific attitude, a critical way of looking at the objects of other >> sciences. I am not troubled by the suspicion that my science does not >> have a recognizable and duly registered academic physionomy. We are not >> fishing for departmentalization. Galileo Galilei did not know whether he >> was a mathematician, a physicist, an astronomer, a philosopher. Nor did >> Charles Sanders Peirce.... >> >> Is there a risk? Yes, a big one. To be charged with Imperialism. It >> would be difficult to plead not guilty, if one accepts--as I >> accept--Morris’ definition, according to which “Semiotics is not >> concerned with the study of a particular kind of object, but with >> ordinary objects in so far (and only in so far) as they participate in >> semiosis”.... >> >> But it is not only semiotics which wants to put its nose into >> everything. For a few years everybody has wanted to put his nose into >> the semiotic mysteries. >> Well, gentlemen, you are welcome. >> Provided we are the gate-keepers. > Yours, > WM > ----- > *(pp. 246-51, in the Internet Archive, > <https://archive.org/details/readingecoanthol0000unse_s1l7>) > > -- > Willard McCarty, > Professor emeritus, King's College London; > Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist > www.mccarty.org.uk _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php