Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 98. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org [1] From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.95: what we write about (85) [2] From: Dino Buzzetti <dino.buzzetti@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.95: what we write about (21) --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2021-06-20 11:33:02+00:00 From: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.95: what we write about Willard’s comments put me in mind of Theodore Roethke’s poem “The Waking”, which begins this way: I wake to sleep, and take my waking slow. I feel my fate in what I cannot fear. I learn by going where I have to go. It’s “a love poem” at ground zero but like many such, ramifies, like that line – it’s a refrain -- “I learn by going where I have to go”. “What do I want to know about?” Yes, there’s nothing more fundamental than that beacon when we’re dealing with what Wallace Stevens called “the Scholar’s Art”, a version of what Ford Madox Ford called “the game that must be lost”. You start out because you want to know about something you know you don’t know about. Then as you go along you begin to know more about that, about what you don’t know. Eventually you come to a point where you can honestly say that you’ve learned something you didn’t know and so you write it up, perhaps even write it up a lot. But then may come the most unnerving discovery of alI, the one Leonard Cohen sang about when he sang “There is a crack in everything – That’s how the light gets in”. So you come finally to the place where the scholar has to go. It’s not a place, it’s an existential condition -- ”the “fate” of an impossible quest, the exposure of “the importance of its failure” (John Unsworth). It turns out that all along and from the start you were mistaken about what you had imagined (dreamt) about that “What”. You didn’t even know “what” you didn’t know and “what” in fact couldn’t know – call it your premises, the “what” they both license and prohibit. So it’s all about “beginning again and again” (Gertrude Stein): “To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield”. I judge that those notorious last three words were Tennyson’s gloss on “to find”: don’t yield to it. Best, JM From: Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> Date: Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 2:52 AM To: Mcgann, Jerome (jjm2f) <jjm2f@virginia.edu> Subject: [Humanist] 35.95: what we write about Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 95. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org<http://www.dhhumanist.org> Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2021-06-20 06:36:48+00:00 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> Subject: what we write about In the latest New York Review of Books, Matt Seaton quotes international journalist Jill Filipovic. This bit of a sentence caught my eye: "... I've moved away from needing to feel like I'm an expert on everything I write about, and have instead started by asking, 'what do I want to know about?' This, for me, with my very different concerns, is a succinct statement of what I think is exactly the right mode of engagement on Humanist, or one of them. I'd think that it also describes the movement in a scholarly careeer as "I want" is informed and shaped by experience -- and one allows oneself to take risks that point the way as utterly bullet-proof arguments can never do. Consider, for example, the work of historian of ancient Greek religion, Walter Burkert, e.g. in Homo Necans, especially for what might be called his intellectual flight-path, zooming down to inspect the smallest of details, then zooming up to behold the whole terrain, then back down again and so on. Thrilling! Comments? Yours, WM -- Willard McCarty, Professor emeritus, King's College London; Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist www.mccarty.org.uk<http://www.mccarty.org.uk> --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2021-06-20 10:01:53+00:00 From: Dino Buzzetti <dino.buzzetti@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.95: what we write about Dear Willard, You have pointed out what I also think would be the right attitude. In the overflood of information we are drowning day by day, the point is not so much whether we get fake or reliable news, as our *passive* position. If we do not seek *actively* for the information we want to find, any critical approach is lost. Yours, -dino -- Dino Buzzetti Formerly: Department of Philosophy, University of Bologna Currently: Fondazione per le Scienze Religiose Giovanni XXIII, Bologna http://web.dfc.unibo.it/buzzetti *http://www.fscire.it/index.php/en/who- <http://www.fscire.it/index.php/en/who-we-are/researchers/dino-buzzetti-2/>* *we-are/researchers/dino-buzzetti-2/ <http://www.fscire.it/index.php/en/who-we-are/researchers/dino-buzzetti-2/>* _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php