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        Date: 2022-02-17 11:04:21+00:00
        From: David Berry <D.M.Berry@sussex.ac.uk>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.536: GPT-3 and generated poetry

Dear all,

On the subject of ELIZA you might be interested in the ongoing discussion about
the (re)discovery of the original MAD-SLIP ELIZA source code in a code critique
organised by Jeff Shrager, Mark Marino, Jeremy Douglass and myself which asks
questions about the structure and ideas behind DOCTOR and the many other
(re)discovered scripts associated with ELIZA. Seeing the original ELIZA source
code is a bit like an archaeological dig into an artificial intelligence deep
time…

https://wg.criticalcodestudies.com/index.php?p=/discussion/108/the-original-
eliza-in-mad-slip-2022-code-critique

Best

David


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On 17 Feb 2022, at 06:10, Humanist
<humanist@dhhumanist.org<mailto:humanist@dhhumanist.org>> wrote:


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[1] From: Dr. Herbert Wender <drwender@aol.com<mailto:drwender@aol.com>>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.529: GPT-3 and generated poetry (15)

[2] From: Mark Wolff <wolff.mark.b@gmail.com<mailto:wolff.mark.b@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.529: GPT-3 and generated poetry (156)

[3] From: Gioele Barabucci
<gioele.barabucci@ntnu.no<mailto:gioele.barabucci@ntnu.no>>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.529: GPT-3 and generated poetry (37)

[4] From: maurizio lana
<maurizio.lana@uniupo.it<mailto:maurizio.lana@uniupo.it>>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.529: GPT-3 and generated poetry (26)


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Date: 2022-02-15 23:25:19+00:00
From: Dr. Herbert Wender <drwender@aol.com<mailto:drwender@aol.com>>
Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.529: GPT-3 and generated poetry

Willard,

if I undertand you correctly the true potential of ELIZA like conversations you
would recognize in the surprise on the human side. Such an account I would see
in analogy to Kant's remark that the Sublime is not a property of the obserbed
but is to be found in the feelings of the subject. Applied on the so-called poem
produced by GPT3 that would mean: Its 'value' is not t be judged without the
possible interpretations of it. In principle the case seems to be like the case
of a very late porm by Hölderlin - "Die Aussicht" - analysed by Jakobson et al.

Cf. Roman Jakobson, Grete Lübbe-Grothues and Susan Kitron (1980): The Language
of
Schizophrenia: Holderlin's Speech and Poetry. Poetics Today Vol. 2, No. 1a,
Roman
Jakobson:Language and Poetry, pp. 137-144.

Kind regards, Herbert


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