Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 404. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2021-12-10 14:16:41+00:00 From: maurizio lana <maurizio.lana@uniupo.it> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.400: critically conscious computing hi Willard, i would like to recall the perspective of D. Engelbart who saw the computer as an assistant to the single person ("augmenting human intellect") enhancing the individual where s/he is weaker, in order to free the time for those impossible-to-foresee-and-to-plan tasks where human intelligence shines. those tasks are not those of the capitalist factory. he worked in a mixed civil-military context but he definitely was not an insider of the military-capitalist system. ii is important to recall the ending lines he wrote in «Augmenting human intellect: a conceptual framework.» AFOSR-3233. Menlo Park, CA: Stanford Research Institute. https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/289565.pdf in 1962 in the middle of the atomic race : After all, we spend great sums for disciplines aimed at understanding and harnessing nuclear power. Why not consider developing a discipline aimed at understanding and harnessing "neural power?" In the long run, the power of the human intellect is really much the more important of the two. for D. Engelbart there are many sources where one can find insights about "what he thought when he did it" Maurizio Il 10/12/21 08:04, Humanist ha scritto: you said that you "think that 'what they thought when they did it' remains an open and important question". I agree that this question "remains open", and maybe forever; but important? to whom? Who votes for 'critical consciousness' has, IMHO, to look on the cirumstances for whatever inventions - and their consequences under such circumstances: atomar weapons, military incriptions resp. deciphering... --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2021-12-08 16:37:55+00:00 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> Subject: Critically Conscious Computing? Some here will already know about Ko et al, Critically Conscious Computing: Methods for Secondary Education; in case not, see (https://criticallyconsciouscomputing.org/#/). I mention it here, however, to raise a question about what a 'critically conscious' perspective entails. Consider, if you would, the first sentence of Chapter 8, "Computers": Digital computers were invented as a way of replacing people with something faster, less error prone, and tireless, mirroring the capitalist values of the industrial revolution. Really? Was that the intention of the inventors? The need for critical perspectives on computing would be very difficult to gainsay; the question, I'd think, is whether a critical perspective takes into account as much as can be known about "what they thought when they did it", as Richard Hamming once wrote. One could avoid the problem here by saying that, 'When digital computers were invented, they reflected capitalist values of the Industrial Revolution. Replacing people with a faster, less error-prone and tireless way of producing goods did not seem to trouble those who pushed to automate the workplace." Or something similar. But I'd still think that "what they thought when they did it" remains an open and important question. Comments? Yours, WM -- Willard McCarty, Professor emeritus, King's College London; Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist www.mccarty.org.uk -- http://maurobiani.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/patrick-george-zaky-libero.png ----- Maurizio Lana Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici Università del Piemonte Orientale piazza Roma 36 - 13100 Vercelli tel. +39 347 7370925 _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php