Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 400. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2021-12-09 13:59:59+00:00 From: Dr. Herbert Wender <drwender@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.393: pubs: Critically Conscious Computing (with comment) Dear Willard, you saiid that you "think that 'what they thought when they did it' remains an open and important question". I agree that this question "remains open", and maybe forever; but important? to whom? Who votes for 'critical consciousness' has, IMHO, to look on the cirumstances for whatever inventions - and their consequences under such circumstances: atomar weapons, military incriptions resp. deciphering... Yours, Herbert -----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung----- Von: Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> An: drwender@aol.com Verschickt: Do, 9. Dez 2021 9:03 Betreff: [Humanist] 35.393: pubs: Critically Conscious Computing (with comment); Internet Histories 5.3-4 Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 393. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org --[1]------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 2021-12-08 16:37:55+00:00 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> Subject: Critically Conscious Computing? Some here will already know about Ko et al, Critically Conscious Computing: Methods for Secondary Education; in case not, see (https://criticallyconsciouscomputing.org/#/). I mention it here, however, to raise a question about what a 'critically conscious' perspective entails. Consider, if you would, the first sentence of Chapter 8, "Computers": > Digital computers were invented as a way of replacing people with > something faster, less error prone, and tireless, mirroring the > capitalist values of the industrial revolution. Really? Was that the intention of the inventors? The need for critical perspectives on computing would be very difficult to gainsay; the question, I'd think, is whether a critical perspective takes into account as much as can be known about "what they thought when they did it", as Richard Hamming once wrote. One could avoid the problem here by saying that, 'When digital computers were invented, they reflected capitalist values of the Industrial Revolution. Replacing people with a faster, less error-prone and tireless way of producing goods did not seem to trouble those who pushed to automate the workplace." Or something similar. But I'd still think that "what they thought when they did it" remains an open and important question. Comments? Yours, WM -- Willard McCarty, Professor emeritus, King's College London; Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist www.mccarty.org.uk _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php