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Humanist Archives: Oct. 25, 2021, 7:05 a.m. Humanist 35.320 - psychoanalysis by a digital doctor

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        Date: 2021-10-24 10:28:44+00:00
        From: Dr. Herbert Wender <>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.318: psychoanalysis by a digital doctor?

Another question:

If the basic concept of ML based AI presupposes some kind of weakening the rules
of the pure reproductive memory model (silo = you get back what you have stored)
and could be understood as a move from identity to similarity thinking, is it
conceivable that we could go further on the way of anthropomorphistic modelling
giving the machines the possiblity to drream their own dreams along rules they
don't know; and would it be a reasonable step in this direction to implement
dialectics so that the negation of the negation is not the original thesis?


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        Date: 2021-10-23 05:43:58+00:00
        From: Ken Friedman <>
        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.316: psychoanalysis by a digital doctor?

Dear Willard,

Given the state of the world and academic life today, I read your question is a
general way rather than a technical way. You ask:

"So far, I take it, systems have been designed to mimic, based on their
training sets. Is it conceivable given what we know now that such a
GPT3-like system could be designed not to mimic based on learned biases
but to deviate or extend ‘beyond the information given’ so as to
illuminate these biases?”

I often ask questions like this about human beings, particularly the human
beings whose training set includes education and research training in today’s



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