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Humanist Archives: Oct. 15, 2021, 7:50 a.m. Humanist 35.299 - A New Book, a Confirmation, and a Refutation

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        Date: 2021-10-14 13:47:25+00:00
        From: scholar-at-large@bell.net 
        Subject: Unoriginal Quotation >> Re: [Humanist] 35.297: A New Book, a Confirmation, and a Refutation

Adding to the exchange between Joris and David, a quotation and an invitation to

[quote]
... resituate authorship not as something that necessarily emerges out of whole
cloth from the genius poised at the computer but instead as an actor of reading
and writing, cutting and pasting, patching together and reworking.
[/quote]

Mark Marino
Critical Code Studies

brought to mind by David’s "Similarly, it seems quite natural that a text that
is a tissue of unoriginal quotations can itself be utterly original and distinctive.”

Marino earlier in his book invokes Bakhtin’s notion of heteroglossia in the
context of comments in code:

[quote]
The many voices of commentary represent not only the multiple authorship but
also the heteroglossia of the code, to use Bakhtin’s notion, the many genres and
styles within even one set of comments composed by the same programmer. While
Bakhtin spoke of novels, these code files are likewise full of genres and
styles, such as narratives, accumulated fragments, even some autogenerated
comments, organized around the particular operational patterns of the
instructions.
[/quote]

We are many. We are one. ?!


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> On Oct 14, 2021, at 2:54 AM, Humanist  wrote:
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>                  Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 297.
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>        Date: 2021-10-13 15:53:03+00:00
>        From: David Hoover 
>        Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.293: A New Book, a Confirmation, and a
Refutation
>
> Yes, Joris, I am sure you are right that Barthes was thinking mainly of
> meaning. But those of us concerned intimately with the individuality,
> distinctiveness, and originality of literary texts tend to be sensitive to
> some of the excesses of Barthes's followers. Many literary scholars seem to
> think that Barthes and Foucault have refuted the idea that authorship
> attribution and stylistics are even possible.
>
> It seems ironic that the social construction of the self can be interpreted
> in this way, when, on the contrary, the social construction of the self
> guarantees that each self is as unique as each idiolect. Similarly, it
> seems quite natural that a text that is a tissue of unoriginal quotations
> can itself be utterly original and distinctive.
>
> --
>            David L. Hoover, Professor of English, NYU
>         212-998-8832       244 Greene Street, Room 409
>               http://wp.nyu.edu/davidlhoover
>
> "They had the Nos. of the rain bow and the Power of the air all
> workit out with counting which is how they got boats in the air
> and picters on the wind. Counting clevverness is what it wer."
> -- Russell Hoban, Riddley Walker



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