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Humanist Archives: Oct. 10, 2021, 7:09 a.m. Humanist 35.293 - A New Book, a Confirmation, and a Refutation

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        Date: 2021-10-09 08:23:46+00:00
        From: Joris van Zundert 
        Subject: Re: A New Book, a Confirmation, and a Refutation

Dear David,

I think Barthes wasn't talking about exact matches though, but more about
the various tissues of meaning? ;-) Google's not very good yet at matching
meaning.

Excellent to hear about the book though. I won't pirate it, unless that
flatters you more than buying the paid version.

Best
--Joris


On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 at 08:44, Humanist  wrote:

>                   Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 291.
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>     [2]    From: David Hoover 
>            Subject: A New Book, a Confirmation, and a Refutation (34)
>
>
>
[...]
> --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------------
>         Date: 2021-10-08 16:32:26+00:00
>         From: David Hoover 
>         Subject: A New Book, a Confirmation, and a Refutation
>
> I announce here my most recent book, *Modes of Composition and the
> Durability of Style in Literature,* Routledge, 2021.
>
> https://www.routledge.com/Modes-of-Composition-and-the-Durability-of-Style-in-
Literature/Hoover/p/book/9780367366704
>
> I was recently able to confirm and refute a claim I made in the book
> simultaneously. In a discussion of Barthes' "The Death of the Author" in
> the book, I quote from his provocative essay, in which he claims:
>
> We know that a text does not consist of a line of words, releasing a single
> “theological” meaning (the “message” of the Author-God), but is a space
> of many dimensions, in which are wedded and contested various kinds of
> writing, no one of which is original: the text is a tissue of citations,
> resulting from the thousand sources of culture.
>
> I point out that the idea that a text is a tissue of un-original citations
> is problematic because a web search for a string of eight words from almost
> any novel returns only hits to that novel. Yet, a search for a string of
> eight words from my own book (before it was published) returned no hits at
> all. The phrase from my book was “will almost certainly return no hits at
> all.” Interestingly enough, a current search for my eight-word phrase
> produces hits to a Google Books preview of my book and to more than twenty
> pirated copies of my book.
>
> I guess I should be flattered?
>
> --
>             David L. Hoover, Professor of English, NYU
>          212-998-8832       244 Greene Street, Room 409
>                http://wp.nyu.edu/davidlhoover
>
> "They had the Nos. of the rain bow and the Power of the air all
> workit out with counting which is how they got boats in the air
> and picters on the wind. Counting clevverness is what it wer."
> -- Russell Hoban, Riddley Walker

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Researcher & Developer in Humanities Computing
Dept. of Literary Studies
Huygens Institute for the History of the Netherlands
Royal Netherlands Academy of Arts and Sciences
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--
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