Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 145. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2021-07-15 10:22:54+00:00 From: Michael Falk <M.G.Falk@kent.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [Humanist] 35.142: sci-fi & imaginative literature on AI Hey Willard, Probably an obvious comment, but Lem’s robot stories in “The Cyberiad” and the English-language collection “Mortal Engines” are probably the classiest AI stories in the canon. They are also more closely linked to the “concerns of the human sciences” than many other sci-fi AI stories. It’s no surprise that Hofstadter and Dennett included so many of Lem’s robot stories in their great collection “The Mind’s I”. From memory, Lem was the only sci-fi writer included there. Cheers, Michael Falk Lecturer in Eighteenth Century Literature | University of Kent Adjunct Fellow in Digital Humanities | Western Sydney University Sent from my iPhone On 15 Jul 2021, at 10:31, Humanist <humanist@dhhumanist.org> wrote: Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 35, No. 142. Department of Digital Humanities, University of Cologne Hosted by DH-Cologne www.dhhumanist.org Submit to: humanist@dhhumanist.org Date: 2021-07-14 06:30:27+00:00 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty@mccarty.org.uk> Subject: imaginative literature on AI In 1965, Kurt Vonnegut wrote to the New York Times about how he, then an employee of General Electric in Schenectady, New York, "completely surrounded by machines and ideas for machines" happened to write a novel reflecting what he observed. From the reviewers, he wrote to the Times, he learned ... that I was a science-fiction writer... I didn't know that. I supposed that I was writing a novel about life, about things I could not avoid seeing and hearing in Schenectady... I have been a sore-headed occupant of a file-drawer labeled "science-fiction" ever since... The way a person gets into this drawer, apparently, is to notice technology. He goes on to observe of his fellow sci-fi writers that, there are those who love life in this fulsome drawer, who are alarmed by the thought that they might some day be evicted, might some day be known for what they really are: plain, old, short-story writers and novelists who mention the fruits of engineering and research. So, to return to my original question: in addition to the stories of those with whom Vonnegut found himself associated, what others might you recommend? Again, I very much want to include those stories whose imagined "fruits of [AI] engineering and research" would actually help us in thinking about the differently intelligent' artificial interlocutors we'd find intellectually challenging. Two among my most favourite examples are Kazuo Ishiguro's novel, Klara and the Sun (2021), and Steven Millhauser's short story, "The New Automaton Theatre" (1999). By the way, I'd not want anyone to miss Vollegut's short story, "Harrison Bergeron", though it's not in my sights for the question I am asking here. Many thanks. Yours, WM -- Willard McCarty, Professor emeritus, King's College London; Editor, Interdisciplinary Science Reviews; Humanist www.mccarty.org.uk _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted List posts to: humanist@dhhumanist.org List info and archives at at: http://dhhumanist.org Listmember interface at: http://dhhumanist.org/Restricted/ Subscribe at: http://dhhumanist.org/membership_form.php