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Humanist Archives: July 7, 2021, 7:24 a.m. Humanist 35.128 - an oppositional artificial intelligence

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    [1]    From: Dr. Herbert Wender <>
           Subject: Fwd: [Humanist] 35.123: mashing up some threads (48)

    [2]    From: Robin Douglas Burke <Robin.Burke@Colorado.EDU>
           Subject: musical opposition (48)

        Date: 2021-07-06 16:50:40+00:00
        From: Dr. Herbert Wender <>
        Subject: Fwd: [Humanist] 35.123: mashing up some threads


Supposing the train of thoughts meanwhile has reached some points of insight in
the perlocutionary effects of questions perhaps it is possible to judge the
potential derailing force of some examples in ELIZA'an mode:

- Could the brain structure behind a mind who is able to bridge an
interpretation over some centuries from an ecliptic ending of a prominent SF
movie to the beginning of modernity through rediscovery of Lucretian swerve
theory (resp. vice versa) be seen as model for rhizomatic AI systems? [1, 2]

- Could it be said that the models behind textual morphing in the work of John
Cailey and that behind Claude Shannon's Text Play are equally rhizomatic - if
they are? [3, 4]

- Could it be conceived a rhizomatic modelling to generate inkblots for use
in Rorschach tests?

- Could we imagine, in analogy to the video in which Foucault morphs into a Power
Ranger, a process model of modelling in which a Rorschach tableau morphs over a
rhizomatic structure into a constellation of arboretic structures, and back into a
new tableau of inkblots, and would such a process mirror the natural history
between 2 BibBangs? [5]

- Could we imagine to model brainstorming, and if, would such a model be judged
as rhizomatic?

-Could a certain subset of threads in the discussion list HUMANIST be interpreted
as a kind of game-playing in the manner of Hesse's' Glasprelenspiel'?


[[1] Cf. McGann on Kubrick's “2001. ASpace Odyssey”, in .Humanist 35.116 [2].

[2] Cf. Greenblatt (201): “The Swerve. How the World Became Modern”.

[3] Cf. Cailey's website [].

[4] Cf. Wardrip-Fruin, Noah (2015): Playable Media and Textual
Instruments [].

[[5] “1 Apr 1996 — Foucault has morphed into a Power Ranger. At least that is
what happens when one downloads a video from the Web home page of Sherry Turkle,
... Ms.Turkle is now on the cover of Wired ...” []

        Date: 2021-07-06 12:33:08+00:00
        From: Robin Douglas Burke <Robin.Burke@Colorado.EDU>
        Subject: musical opposition

Re: the idea of an opposition artificial intelligence, I offer the
following thread of recent research in music information retrieval and
recommendation. The authors in these works have been seeking to build
systems that can spur musical creativity through "oppositional"
suggestions / recommendations:

Collins, N. (2010). Contrary Motion: An Oppositional Interactive Music
System. In NIME (pp. 125-129).

Knees, P., Andersen, K., & Tkalcic, M. (2015). " I'd like it to do the
opposite": Music-Making Between Recommendation and Obstruction. In DMRS
(pp. 9-16).

Knees, Peter, and Kristina Andersen. "A Prototype for Exploration of
Computational Strangeness in the Context of Rhythm Variation." UMAP
(Extended Proceedings). 2016.

Bauer, C., & Schedl, M. (2017, July). Introducing surprise and
opposition by design in recommender systems. In Adjunct Publication of
the 25th Conference on User Modeling, Adaptation and Personalization
(pp. 350-353).

Some of these papers appeared in the two SOAP workshops (Surprise,
Opposition, and Obstruction in Adaptive and Personalized Systems) from
2016 and 2017:

These workshops were a bit broader as the title implies. I think the
music-related work is closest to the spirit of the term "oppositional".



Robin Burke (he/his), Professor, Chair
Department of Information Science
Department of Computer Science (by courtesy)
University of Colorado, Boulder

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