21.109 no poetry on the Web???

From: Humanist Discussion Group (by way of Willard McCarty willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:49:41 +0100

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   [1] From: "Ray Siemens" <siemens_at_uvic.ca> (24)
         Subject: RE: 21.107 no poetry on the Web??? [Digital Humanities
                 Summer Institute]

   [2] From: schmidt_at_itee.uq.edu.au (48)
         Subject: Re: 21.107 no poetry on the Web???

   [3] From: Tatjana Chorney <tatjana.chorney_at_SMU.CA> (42)
         Subject: RE: 21.107 no poetry on the Web???

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         Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:43:48 +0100
         From: "Ray Siemens" <siemens_at_uvic.ca>
         Subject: RE: 21.107 no poetry on the Web??? [Digital
Humanities Summer Institute]

           Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:34:22 +0100
           From: "Matt Kirschenbaum" <mkirschenbaum_at_gmail.com>
           Humanities Summer Institute

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> Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:44:33 +0100
> From: "Ray Siemens" <siemens_at_uvic.ca>
>
[. . .]

> Why is there is no poetry on the Web? A look at the incompatible
> differences between written and digital media

A title one hopes is intended to be provocative, as opposed to merely naive.

--
Hi Matt --
About the approach of the title: you'll be the best judge, I'd think, though
the former is most likely, as you already suggest.
The webpage and CV of Ollivier Dyens -- the digital poet and academic who is
speaking to this topic -- is at this URL:
http://francais.concordia.ca/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=169&I
temid=160.
We intend to have video of all institute speakers available on the website
as the week progresses (see www.dhsi.org).  Dyens' talk is this coming
Friday morning.
Cheers,
Ray
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         Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:44:12 +0100
         From: schmidt_at_itee.uq.edu.au
         Subject: Re: 21.107 no poetry on the Web???
Quoting "Humanist Discussion Group (by way of Willard McCarty
<willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk>)" <willard_at_LISTS.VILLAGE.VIRGINIA.EDU>:
  >                Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 21, No. 107.
  >        Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London
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  >          Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 08:34:22 +0100
  >          From: "Matt Kirschenbaum" <mkirschenbaum_at_gmail.com>
  >           > Humanities Summer Institute
  >
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  >  >          Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:44:33 +0100
  >  >          From: "Ray Siemens" <siemens_at_uvic.ca>
  >  >
  > [. . .]
  >
  >  >      Why is there is no poetry on the Web? A look at the incompatible
  >  >        differences between written and digital media
  >
  > A title one hopes is intended to be provocative, as opposed to 
merely naive.
  >
  >
  > --
  >
  > Matthew Kirschenbaum
  > Assistant Professor of English
  > Associate Director,
  > Maryland Institute for Technology in the Humanities (MITH)
  > University of Maryland
  > 301-405-8505 or 301-314-7111 (fax)
  > http://www.mith.umd.edu/
  > http://www.otal.umd.edu/~mgk/
  >
I think this is at least partly due to our failure in finding a suitable form
for poetry in the digital world. It differs from prose in that almost all
poetical works go through a much longer series of drafts. The text emerges
almost like a dimmer switch being turned up, gradually focussing on the images
the poet wants to convey. I like the quote from Paul Valery: 'There are no
finished poems, only abandoned ones'. We can't represent that yet in the
digital medium where everything must be so stark and explicit. Actually the
print medium was worse: one couldn't change a text once printed but one can
change an electronic text. When the transformation to a digital society is
finally complete there may be a place for poetry in it.
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         Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:45:17 +0100
         From: Tatjana Chorney <tatjana.chorney_at_SMU.CA>
         Subject: RE: 21.107 no poetry on the Web???
Hi,
I would be very interested in hearing/reading the lecture below--will it be
posted somewhere?
Best,
Tatjana
Tatjana Chorney
Department of English
Saint Mary's University
Halifax, NS
Canada
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   >          Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:44:33 +0100
   >          From: "Ray Siemens" <siemens_at_uvic.ca>
   >
[. . .]
   >      Why is there is no poetry on the Web? A look at the incompatible
   >        differences between written and digital media
A title one hopes is intended to be provocative, as opposed to merely naive.
-- 
Matthew Kirschenbaum
Assistant Professor of English
Associate Director,
Maryland Institute for Technology in the Humanities (MITH)
University of Maryland
301-405-8505 or 301-314-7111 (fax)
http://www.mith.umd.edu/
http://www.otal.umd.edu/~mgk/
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