Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 21, No. 40.
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[1] From: "Carolyn Guertin" <carolyn.guertin_at_gmail.com> (62)
Subject: Re: 21.025 online resource involves research
[2] From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk> (59)
Subject: understanding online
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:30:53 +0100
From: "Carolyn Guertin" <carolyn.guertin_at_gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 21.025 online resource involves research
Thank you all for the helpful resources and pointers so many of you
have given me.
Craig, It is a part of a comprenhensive research project into
transcultural digital media that involves publishing the findings
online. They seem to have decided that the method of publication
cancelled out the work that would form the content. Thanks for the link.
Best,
Carolyn
On 5/16/07, Humanist Discussion Group (by way of Willard McCarty
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 08:02:39 +0100
From: Craig Bellamy
<<mailto:craig.bellamy_at_kcl.ac.uk>craig.bellamy_at_kcl.ac.uk>
> > I was wondering if someone could assist me please?
> > I recently had a proposal for a research grant rejected by my
> > institution because (wait for it) my institution tells me that the
> > creation of an online resource (in this case a Website and a wiki)
> > involves no research. Yes, i found it hard to believe they were
> > serious too. Can anyone direct me to an official definition--MLA or
> > otherwise--of online resources writ large for use in my appeal?
>
Hi Caroline,
This is an interesting problem; one in that I have come across
before. I am not sure exactly what you are trying to do, but in the
Australian system (the one in which I have the most experience), the
creation of an online resources isn't seen as research in itself
unless it somehow advances ICT methods and creates new knowledge
about those methods and the content that is being digitised (if this
makes sense). The project that I am working on here in the UK, ICT
Guides, has some information on this in the UK system.
<http://ahds.ac.uk/ictguides/>http://ahds.ac.uk/ictguides/
best,
Craig
-- Dr Craig Bellamy Research Associate ICT Guides, AHDS, King's College, London <http://ahds.ac.uk/ictguides/>http://ahds.ac.uk/ictguides/ ----- 26 - 29 Drury Lane 3rd Floor King's College London LONDON, WC2B 5RL Phone: 020 7848 1976 -- Carolyn Guertin, PhD Director, eCreate Lab Department of English University of Texas at Arlington 203 Carlisle Hall, Box 19035 <http://www.uta.edu/english/ecreate/>http://www.uta.edu/english/ecreate/ Email: <mailto:carolyn.guertin_at_gmail.com>carolyn.guertin_at_gmail.com --[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 07:09:35 +0100 From: Willard McCarty <willard.mccarty_at_kcl.ac.uk> Subject: understanding online Ostensible acceptance without understanding is a cheat. And we're the ones cheated. Having some part of a person's research in digital form is no longer a dirty secret to be concealed, indeed we exhibit the fact so that we may be considered up-to-date. But with some, young (undergraduate students) and old (colleagues), a "web page" is merely a web page. Anyone can do it, everyone does. It may be e-valu-ated with the help of widely published criteria as either good or bad, but its kind is not questioned. Few ask the harder question, what *kind* of knowledge is this resource giving me? How is that kind shaped by the fact that the resource is online? Ask yourself, how often is the specifically digital scholarship in a digital resource described by anyone? An historian comes to a technical practitioner, let us say. A long, probing conversation, taking place over many weeks or months, then ensues. The historian's view of his or her original questions and sources is profoundly affected. (We know this happens from individual testimony.) The technical practitioner's understanding of his or her craft is likewise affected. Let us say that a brilliant piece of work results. (We know this happens too.) The resource is put online, historians of the period and area flock to it virtually. A great success. BUT who writes about the profound changes to individuals' understanding of their fields? Who studies these effects so that anecdotes become evidence for a scholarship *of* as well as in the digital medium? Let us say, perhaps unfairly, that no one, or very few, write about these changes. As a result, their articulate existence remains only in the form of promotional claims made to support some ill-understood thing called "ICT". Among scholars, among the professors of the institutions, the only visible, real aspect of the resource is its historical, or literary, or linguistic, or whatever kind of scholarship, which thus seems to float free of its digital instantiation. When the "web page" is mentioned, it is only a web page, no different from any other, therefore not scholarship, except to "content specialists" (another pernicious term), who tends not to regard its online existence as anything other than a convenience. I suppose some progress has been made, in the sense that the servant is paid, and sometimes even fêted. But the servant remains a servant, and much quiet damage is done. So much more is possible! (I note the postdoc advertised in today's lot of Humanist. A good sign.) Yours, WM Dr Willard McCarty | Reader in Humanities Computing | Centre for Computing in the Humanities | King's College London | http://staff.cch.kcl.ac.uk/~wmccarty/.Received on Tue May 22 2007 - 02:30:17 EDT
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