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[1] From: "Alex Murzaku" <lists@lissus.com> (77)
Subject: RE: 17.805 what's needed: management tools
[2] From: "Paul Edward Oppenheimer" (13)
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Subject: Re: 17.802 what's needed?
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:18:18 +0100
From: "Alex Murzaku" <lists@lissus.com>
Subject: RE: 17.805 what's needed: management tools
You should give a look to Zoe at http://www.zoe.nu
This is what Raphael, the author of Zoe says about it:
The goal here is to do for email (starting with your personal mailbox) what
Google did for the web... The Google principle: It doesn't matter where
information is because I can get to it with a keystroke.
So what is Zoë? Think about it as a sort of librarian, tirelessly,
continuously, processing, slicing, indexing, organizing, your messages. The
end result is this intertwingled web of information. Messages put in
context. Your very own knowledge base accessible at your fingertip. No more
"attending to" your messages. The messages organization is done
automatically for you so as to not have the need to "manage" your email.
Because once information is available at a keystroke, it doesn't matter in
which folder you happened to file it two years ago. There is no folder. The
information is always there. Accessible when you need it. In context.
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Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 17, No. 805.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 07:20:38 +0100
From: Maurizio Lana <m.lana@lett.unipmn.it>
Subject: Re: 17.802 what's needed?: email management; multiple
format infos management
At 10.11 18/04/2004, you wrote:
>[...]
>What would make a finding and arranging aid semantically welcome to me...
here are my first thoughts.
1) email management
some facts: i keep my email. i keep any piece of mail received (except for
spam ...). from my point of view email is an archive in the old sense of
the term. the live email i have goes back to the years 1997, 1996; in the
archival CDs the frozen email goes back even more.
but: we haven't an efficient way to manage the messages. the filters with
their static connection to folders in order to sorting the mail aren't the
best way to accomplish the task.
we would need, i think, tools allowing to have contemporary, multiple,
dynamic views of the mail archive (what one now obtains with the folders).
these contemporary multiple dynamic views should defined on the basis of
date, sender, subject, content, without being constrained to pre-define the
specific words triggering the filter/view. this could be accomplished
through the bayesian filters doing so well (in my experience) with the
spam. the bayesian filter could function the usual way, ordering the
messages: not in order to trash them but in order to sort them according
the content.
2) management of multiple infos in multiple formats
usually about a given subject of interest (say: digital preservation) one
would like to keep together doc and pdf document, email messages, images,
URL as bookmarks, web pages, and some of these materials could also be
part of other collections/subjects. we now have only two very poor tools:
folders and "Windows shortcuts".
two main problems: as we know it's very difficult to keep together - say -
an internet bookmark and a file; and - as always - we could like to have
the same file in many collections, but we don't like to have as many copies
of the file as the collections: because of the space wasted, and because if
the file is something we are working on, at every stage of its
evolution/redaction we'd re-copy it into every collection...
i know of a very interesting feature of NTFS file systems, called "hard
link" (if you have the file A in the folder F1, you can create for A an
hard link B in the folder F2; if you back up the folder F2, the file A,
through the hard link B is backed up!! the same thing doesn't happen if you
back up a folder containing shortcuts; "furthermore, hard links, as
system-level shortcuts, always point to the right target file-no matter if
you rename or move it [http://www.hlm.inc.ru/]) which could be interesting
but I wasn't able to find for it any decent suggestion of use, and some
security warnings exist about a vulnerability created by hard links.
maurizio
Maurizio Lana - ricercatore
Dipartimento di Studi Umanistici - Università del Piemonte Orientale a
Vercelli
via Manzoni 8, I-13100 Vercelli
+39 347 7370925
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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:19:14 +0100
From: "Paul Edward Oppenheimer" <paul.oppenheimer@cox.net>
Subject: Re: 17.802 what's needed?
The first thing I would say is that everyone might want to look at and
possibly emulate the practices of the Stanford Encyclopaedia of Philosophy,
which has done pioneering work in producing a document that is both dynamic
and authoritative/definitive.
[Full disclosure: The Editor-in-Chief of the Stanford Encyclopedia of
Philosophy is a colleague, co-author, and very good friend of mine.]
The second thing I would say is that it ought to be immeasurably easier and
cheaper to transfer text from a piece of paper or a book to a text file than
it is now.
Further responses will be forthcoming.
Paul Edward Oppenheimer
Engineering Research Center
Mississippi State University
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