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[1] From: <dgants@rogers.com> (34)
Subject: Re: 17.347 serious blogging
[2] From: DrWender@aol.com (39)
Subject: Re: 17.354 serious blogging
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:20:57 +0000
From: <dgants@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: 17.347 serious blogging
>
> From: Adrian Miles <adrian.miles@rmit.edu.au>
> Date: 2003/10/28 Tue PM 06:14:21 EST
> To: humanist@Princeton.EDU
> >
> At 8:09 +0000 28/10/03, "Steve Krause wrote:
> >You mention that this TLS article doesn't discuss in any way if "Salam Pax
> >is a pseudonym." Does TLS article bring up the reality of Pax? I happen
> >to think that Pax exists, but what I'm getting at is the nature of the
> >interface is such that the convincing and "authentic" view of this
> >first-hand account of the war in Iraq could have been written by an
> >especially gifted teenager in Kansas, or some place/scenario like that.
>
> a good point, however during the rise of his blog the blog community
> put a lot of effort into this and pretty much confirmed the
> legitimacy of the blog. There is, I believe, an article in Slate
> about this, as well as an essay in Tekka (subscription only). Not to
> mention all the blog posts that went on at the time.
>
> blog communities are self organising, and things like ' the
> epistemology of the blog' and 'authenticity' operate as what I'd
> probably (in a rather muddled way) call strange attractors to
> academic bloggers. Bit like the way the media loves a story that has
> itself in it, really :-)
>
> cheers
> Adrian Miles
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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:23:38 +0000
From: DrWender@aol.com
Subject: Re: 17.354 serious blogging
Sorry, friends, I don't understand the problem exposed
by Norman Gray (17.354[1]):
>Similarly journals like Postmodern Culture and the Bryn Mawr Classical
>Review (and for that matter the majority of current STM journals) are
>basically conventional journals that have simply switched medium, just
>as their predecessors arguably did when they switched from epistolary
>networks to the published proceedings of learned societies. Thus if
>they occasionally dip back into print that's hardly surprising.
>
>Perhaps, then, the interesting thing is whether the Baghdad blog or
>the various paper FAQs are `the first example of a primary
>_online_form_ reduced to print for commercial publication'.
Before we will see an exploding discussion on nowaday
writers who are publishing their _online_form_ diaries
(see 17.354[2] from Jessica P. Hekman recurring to
17347[5] from Matt Kirschenbaum: "blog-style
novels, just as there were a handful of epistolary email novels a few
years back) it may be helpful to look back many years more.
When Choderlos published his "Liaisons dangereuses",
he didn't change the medium - he simulated in print the
documentation of an (of course: simulated) "epistolary
network". When Goethe published his "Werther", he did
in principle the same, reducing the documentation of the
(of course: simulated) epistolary network to one node
of the network and finally - because the story reaches the
death of this node-person and goes on just to the grave -
building the fiction of an editor who publish the epistolarian
material. When Goethe a few years later travelled with
his Chief in Switzerland and wrote real-life letters to a lady
at home her requesting to sample these letters, and when he
later on made a redaction of these letters and published this
work under the title "Briefe aus der Schweiz" - is this (similar
to the case of the Bagdad blog) an <quote> example of a primary
_[epistolary]_form_ reduced to print for commercial publication </quote>
?
And what is the difference to the case of journals who
<quote> simply switched medium </quote>
?
hw
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