12.0600 Amazon.com & paper mills

Humanist Discussion Group (humanist@kcl.ac.uk)
Sat, 1 May 1999 08:22:25 +0100 (BST)

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 12, No. 600.
Centre for Computing in the Humanities, King's College London

[1] From: Patricia Galloway <galloway@mdah.state.ms.us> (16)
Subject: Re: 12.0594 Amazon.com & paper mills

[2] From: "Price, Dan" <dprice@tui.edu> (16)
Subject: RE: Paper Mills Again

[3] From: "Clifford E. Wulfman" <clifford.wulfman@yale.edu> (13)
Subject: Amazon.com, Re: From the feedback@amazon.com queue,
Re: junglepage.com (fwd)

Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:32:36 +0100
From: Patricia Galloway <galloway@mdah.state.ms.us>
Subject: Re: 12.0594 Amazon.com & paper mills

Actually, when I went to the JunglePage site, on the same day I received
the original post by digest (and four days after the original post), I
did not see the Amazon logo, which is why I wondered what the uproar was
about; presumably they had already acted. But I have to agree with
Robert Knapp's comment about the incident as commentary on
"factory-style education." When I hire recent graduates these days, I
know they won't be able to write from day one, and I'll have to teach
them. Still, forty years ago sororities and fraternities got papers for
students all the time, so this isn't really something new: it has just
stopped being an elite resource and turned into a business opportunity.
Another observation: surely Amazon wouldn't make much of a profit--in
book sales at least--from such sites?

Patricia Galloway
Mississippi Department of Archives and History
P.O. Box 571, Jackson, MS 39205-0571
voice 601-359-6863

--[2]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:32:57 +0100 From: "Price, Dan" <dprice@tui.edu> Subject: RE: Paper Mills Again

Well, out of curiosity I went to visit some papermills and found essaydepot.com. They claim to be the best and the cheapest for essays, papers and reports. Right on the side bar is a $10. gift certificate offer from barnesandnoble.com.

There easily could have been other such ads on other sites but this was most noticeable and attractive. Good piece of advertising on their part.

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--[3]------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 1999 07:33:37 +0100 From: "Clifford E. Wulfman" <clifford.wulfman@yale.edu> Subject: Amazon.com, Re: From the feedback@amazon.com queue, Re: junglepage.com (fwd)

After seeing the posting on Humanist about Amazon.com and the "paper mill" junglepage.com, I wrote to feedback@amazon.com and received the following reply, which I thought might be of interest to fellow listmembers.


--------------------------- Clifford E. Wulfman Department of English Yale University P.O. Box 208302 New Haven, CT 06520-8302

clifford.wulfman@yale.edu ----------------------------

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 13:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: associates@amazon.com Subject: Amazon.com, Re: From the feedback@amazon.com queue, Re: jungle$

Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention. We've looked into this and found that junglepage.com had been a member of the Amazon.com Associates Program. This program now includes over 250,000 web sites that recommend our service to their visitors in exchange for a small percentage of the sales they generate.

We never handle orders for the products offered for sale by our Associates, and certainly never took orders for the essays and papers sold by junglepage.com. It's also inappropriate for an Associate to claim that they are "sponsored by" Amazon.com, which implies a level of endorsement that we explicitly do not offer any of our Associates and did not offer to junglepage.com.

Many web sites do not qualify to join or remain in the Amazon.com Associates program, and upon review we have decided to terminate this account effective immediately. We have requested that our logo and brand name be removed from the site, and hope that this will be completed shortly.

Thanks again for writing to express your concerns, and for giving us a chance to take the proper action. Phan Amazon.com Associates Program http://www.amazon.com/ Books, Music and More

> > > > >From: "Clifford E. Wulfman" <clifford.wulfman@yale.edu> > >To: feedback@amazon.com > >Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:18:17 -0400 > > > >It has come to my attention that Amazon.com sponsors > >http://www.junglepage.com, a web site that sells, among other things, > >pre-written college essays. I'm sure I needn't tell you that the use of > >these products constitutes plagiarism in any college or university I can > >think of and is in any case a gross ethical violation that destroys the > >foundations of higher education. I will no longer use Amazon.com myself, > >and I will urge my colleagues and students to stop using your services as > >well. > > > >--------------------------- > >Clifford E. Wulfman > >Department of English > >Yale University > >P.O. Box 208302 > >New Haven, CT 06520-8302 > > > >clifford.wulfman@yale.edu > >---------------------------

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