7.0552 Rs: Once, Twice...; Dutch Booksellers (2/86)

Mon, 7 Mar 1994 23:26:21 EST

Humanist Discussion Group, Vol. 7, No. 0552. Monday, 7 Mar 1994.

(1) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 08:01:56 EST (42 lines)
Subject: "Once, Twice, Thrice" Again

(2) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 12:02:04 -0500 (EST) (44 lines)
Subject: Dutch Booksellers

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Date: Mon, 7 Mar 94 08:01:56 EST
Subject: "Once, Twice, Thrice" Again

A while back I asked the list if anyone knew the name, parallel
to "cardinal numbers" and "ordinal numbers," for the series
"once, twice, thrice," and any further terms in the series. I
thought the list now might be interested to learn that no one has
sent me a precisely parallel, established term. Clarence Brown,
however, says he would propose calling these "iterative numbers."
Martti Nyman notes that they are "adverbia numeralia" in Latin
grammar and so could be called "numeral adverbs" in English,
which is not quite parallel but darned close, IMHO. Joseph Jones
points out that these words are treated twice in _A Comprehensive
Grammar of the English Language_ (1985), in section 5.18 they are
classed as "multipliers" under predeterminers, under
determinatives in a chapter on nouns and determiners, and in
section 8.64 they are classed under occasion frequency but
apparently given no specific name. Paul McNamara points out that
all sets such as "one, two, three," "first, second, third," and
"once, twice, thrice" are technically known as "well ordered
series." Only one person, Joseph, suggested further terms in the
series: "four times, five times, etc."

On the basis of the responses we've had so far, I propose
"adverbial numbers" as the parallel term, although the word
"adverbial" suggests more how the number words are used than how
they are constructed. If anyone cares to send me other
suggestions, I'll collect them, and the reasoning that may
accompany them, and report to the list. I think, like astronomers
who first spot a comet, we have the right to name this heretofore
unnamed phenomenon, the list serving as the International Union.
Many thanks to all.


Eric Rabkin esrabkin@umich.edu
Department of English esrabkin@umichum.bitnet
University of Michigan office : 313-764-2553
Ann Arbor MI 48109-1045 dept : 313-764-6330
deptl fax : 313-763-3128
voice msgs: 313-763-3130
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Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 12:02:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Dutch Booksellers

This message was posted to Exlibris last week. Sorry for this delay.

I followed up on Lucia Diamond's suggestion and contacted Arnoud Gerits of A.
Gerits & Son b.v., Prinsengracht 445, P.O. Box 664, 1000 AR Amsterdam, The
Netherlands, Voice (0) 20-627 2285, Fax (0) 20-625 89 70.

A summary of his response is as follows:

1. Individuals may order books and pay with a credit card. Currently
Master/Eurocard and Visa are accepted.

2. They are in the process of setting up an email account.

3. They will send catalogs or recently published European titles. Books that
have been orders are bought by Gerits, inspected for completeness, and invoiced
and mailed by a commercial service by airmail. Gerits charges regular surface
mailing costs and pays the difference between the two rates.

This means rapid delivery with reasonable transportation costs. Because Gerits
will have paid its suppliers long before the customer pays, they claim the
right to charge one's credit card at the time of mailing.

Mr. Gerits writes that his business has a number of satisfied customers in the
U.S., and encourages potential customers to write, fax, or call. His father,
A.H.J. Gerits, current president of the International League of Antiquarian
Booksellers, will be in New York to moderate the "Collector & Bookseller:
Fellowship of the Book" conference at the Grolier on April 20, and may be
contacted there.

Perhaps the first Exlibris reader who finds out Gerits's email address can post
it to Exlibris.

If you know of other dealers in the Netherlands, or other countries, who will
accept orders by email and payment by credit card, please share these with the

Evert Volkersz, Head evolkersz@ccmail.sunysb.edu
Special Collections Department Fax: 516-632-7116
SUNY Library Voice: 516-632-7119
Stony Brook, NY 11794-3323